GO with Joe·July 23, 2021
How Curtis Toler was able to leave a Chicago Gang
Amanda Ripley and Joe talk about my favorite aspect of Amanda’s book; stories from the people she interviewed People drawn into fights that consumed their lives — especially Curtis Toler, a gang leader on the South Side of Chicago. →IN THIS EPISODE…Joe and Amanda discuss conflict; the different types, which conflict is good and which is bad. Amanda shares some incredible stories from the road while interviewing people who experienced high conflict in different ways from a gang member to a scholar of conflict who found himself in the same conflict he himself talks about how to avoid. 🤼♂️ AMANDA RIPLEY is a New York Times bestselling author and an investigative journalist for The Atlantic and other magazines. Her books include High Conflict: Why We Get Trapped and How We Get Out, The Smartest Kids in the World: And How They Got That Way, and The Unthinkable: Who Survives When Disaster Strikes—and Why. Ripley spent a decade writing about human behavior for Time magazine in New York, Washington, and Paris. Her stories helped Time win two National Magazine Awards. 👊 To learn more about Not Almost There by visiting this link → Not Almost There http://notalmostthere.com/ Connect with Joe on social here:
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